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Sarah, I love you! However, please stop having guys like Drucker (and Kraushaar) on the show.
They aren't giving good faith, neutral analysis. They are pushing an agenda (and working through some personal issues in public) that is both a lie and dangerous. They want to claim that anyone who isn't Trump is normal. Drucker's continued invocation of suburban and swing voters who want someone who isn't outside the norm. DeSanctimonious is not normal. Punishing Disney for boys kissing is not normal. Going to NatCon conferences and espousing christian nationalist rhetoric is not normal. Additionally, he brought up that swing/suburban voters didn't change their views on fiscal and foreign policies when they voted for Biden. Ok, but what is Ron's stance on Ukraine? What about defunding Obamacare? Does he want to sunset So. Sec?
These guys are hacks pretending to be serious people. Obviously all humans who cover politics have their own biases and desires for candidates, but people like Weigel and Walters try their absolute best to detach themselves and not let the narrative they want take over their analysis.
While I appreciated this conversation (because I want to know what we're all dealing with), I found myself getting really agitated. Perhaps I misunderstand, but it seems pundits are suggesting Ron DeSantis is an improvement over Trump? I think he's a scarier version of Trump. He's a bully with authoritarian tendencies, and he's smart enough to be successful. Additionally, any of the potential candidates for 2024 that were mentioned did not stand up to Trump. Sycophants "need not apply" in my opinion. It seemed to me that David Drucker thinks DeSantis is just fine?
It's looking really good for Dems in 2024. Former Trump voters want "fighters" --Trumpiness without Trump. In other words, more radical culture warriors without Trump-level skills. That won't fly with most voters.
The scariest thing is that these voters still think Trump did a good job and anything he's done that sounds bad is because of Dems and/or media deliberately making him look bad. So frustrating!
To be considered "a family man," we need more than "is married with children." I would also argue that running for a high profile office is not generally good for your family. Getting the high profile office is even worse. (And yes, I feel this way about Obama too.)
All this talk about Trump being less of an exciting candidate is wrong. He was not on the ballot and so his crazies did not come out and vote. Did Trump even ask them to?
Kari Lake may not be conceding, but I doubt it goes far. Spending endless on lawyers & lawsuits with no evidence to support the claims is not a club people want to hurry and sign up for.
Finally, one reason Democrats might have overperformed this election is the clear message from Kevin McCarthy and Kari Lake that the Republicans just don't plan to do their jobs at all. They made no mention of fixing anything, they just plan a spin cycle of grievances to appease the MAGA fox viewers.
Very interesting: Trumpism without Trump: the talking heads are only interested in winning...this is all about winning and not about getting a candidate who actually cares about the people and their issues. What those comments that were played say about Republicans is that they don’t even care about having a candidate who would actually find out what their issues and problems are, it’s all about winning- Fascist politics in play if I ever saw I it. Put aside Fox and why not read some Jason Stanley: How Fascism Works, and then you will see what I mean.
As for DeSantis: just read a little Carl Hiaasen about the corruption in Florida. It’s an armpit State and always has been.
I didn’t see any evidence of people talking policy- it was all about performance...what a waste...
My idea of hell: DeSantis and Noem in the White House.
Too depressing. It's so jarring to hear people speak about Biden through the lens of Fox and conservative news. They are incapable of actual thought. Biden doesn't have cognitive decline. Moreover, they eat up authoritarian politics. It's disgusting. I'm so relieved that they more or less lost in this election and that Gen Z is overtaking them in votes.
Sarah's focus groups always thoroughly depress me. I didn't know it's ALL the fault of the media, Democrats and everyone ELSE that trump lost 🙄
It wasn't mentioned on the podcast, but both Noem and DeSantis are vocal anti-lgbt bigots.
I think if anything, that might be the defining issue of the Republican party these days. It seems that's what the base really gravitates towards. Which might be enough to permanently doom them with younger voters.
This guy is way too reminiscent of Ben Shapiro: weaselly and conveniently ignoring the fact that a critical mass of R voters want cruelty and antics that bring the 'baggage'. If they want DeSantis it's because his cart is still relatively empty and can be loaded with lots more baggage
To participate in the focus group, do you have to be (indicating low bar) _____ dumb?
The thing some of these guys don't get Trump is a Republican when it suits him and but is Trump always. Watch your six.
“they just plan a spin cycle of grievances to appease the MAGA fox viewers.” That’s pretty much what Repubs will do. So much for the “wisdom” of the Drucker person.
If DeSantis would run and win for President, we can look to Orban to see where we would go as a Country- guess it’s OK if you’re white...
Rick Scott is a piece of crap and so is Marco Rubio. Florida will hopefully go blub blub as climate degradation advances.
Another great pod to workout to!
If I could ask for fewer guests like Drucker (echoing Kenneth's comment); maybe more "young Bulwarkers?" Gunner killed it in the pre-election pod IMO. If we keep using the same rotten structures we'll keep getting the same results. Talking about stopping platforming Trump, stop platforming the shills, the "empty chested men" who carry his water at the Examiner or on the airwaves. Stop letting them be "thoughtful" to the Bulwark and the legacy intellectuals while pumping poison into the base.